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Time:07:36 pm
You know if you paid any real attention to this group you would see we have more important things to do then send anyone to you for "fun".

We love pointing out your hypocrisy of "Tolerant Wiccans and Pagans" yet you ban anyone who may be a friend or just watching this community.

You are nothing but spoiled little children who do not seem to understand the stupidity in which you have embroiled yourselves. One has to wonder what a community that is open to all pagans and wiccans truly is like if they ban certain pagans and wiccans for being friends with certain people or expressing opinions about certain things.

If you truly wanted to learn you would not be banning people.

I pity you for you will gain no knowledge but false knowledge, which will only get you hurt.

sad.
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karlthepagan
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Time:2005-02-08 04:11 am (UTC)
"You cannot honestly say that this group has not made fun of beliefs of the members of the other group, can you?"

I absolutely can, tell me why it must be otherwise?

You really need to review the arguments that took place in wiccan and please realize that emerald_rose had made a giant rant in reaction to what other community members had said. That rant was disruptive so she was banned. If you think it was any kind of personal gripe on the part of silvertree I'd like to see the conversations that show that.


"Why bother?" You should look into the reason why wiccans_unite was created! W-U and its owner were at its inception merely a group of people who had a problem with wiccan, some of its members, and its moderator!

The LJ info for wiccans_unite was only changed after this community was created. Even then it was only changed in superficial ways. After several weeks the info was canged in wiccan so that it was not associated with W-U after then the point was pretty much mute. I stopped paying attention for a while until one day I came back and saw many posts asking to enable comments. From there on this has become a haven for anyone who has a problem with W-U... it's purpose now IN FACT is parallel to the original purpose of W-U (a haven for a few people who had a problem with wiccan and their moderator).

She in fact does not have the law on her side in the long run... read back in this comm a bit and you'll see why. The rub is that livejournal's requirements to challenge her claims would require much more effort than it took her to file the "legal" complaint.

Here's how to go about filing a fraudulent copyright complaint:
1) go to file an abuse report http://www.livejournal.com/abuse/report.bml
2) choose copyright violation
3) click the checkbox saying the post/community violates copyright on something that you are the original copyright holder

That's it! the page owner will be sent a DMCA violation note and be forced by LJ staff to take down the page or send them a SIGNED AFFADAVIT SWEARING THAT YOU HAVE PERMISSION TO USE THE MATERIAL!!!

That not only requires me to create an affadavit, but requires me to acquire an affadavit from the original author, silvertree. Since you're familliar with that person I hope you understand the inconveniences at play... its just not worth it for something as stupid as wiccans_unite.

If you'd honestly like to see this played out to its just conclusion you must account for the inconvenience it causes all of us AND AS YOU HAVE POINTED OUT WE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO!!!

There is no case, it's not worth my time... but it's really turned out to be very entertaining to every once in a while get a friend of wiccans_unite get really offended, then come over here and get THE TRUE STORY FROM US and then realize that they weren't sticking up for truth and the honor of an upstanding wiccan victim, but for a liar. Here's the last such "convert" story: http://www.livejournal.com/community/__wicca_haven__/9478.html?nc=21 I'm not saying they agree with this community, but they came to realize they were being fed lies about this comm and the inception of wiccans_unite.
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karlthepagan
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Time:2005-02-08 04:13 am (UTC)
(oops, emerald rose was her original user name, it's now _raven_myst_)
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lkrobinson
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Time:2005-02-08 01:29 pm (UTC)
I actually did watch the whole thing play out. I think that there was instigation on both sides. I'm really not going to bother arguing with you on this...suffice to say I don't like the idea of Wiccans_Untie. It just all seems like a waste of time...and so is arguing about it. I just felt a need to speak to both sides as the constant posting about trolls was getting on my nerves.
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karlthepagan
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Time:2005-02-08 04:24 pm (UTC)
Of course there was some instigation... creating the comm. Was there anything else?
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